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Countersteering Do you do it or not??
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bazrippa
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 PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:49 pm    Post subject: Countersteering Do you do it or not?? Reply with quote Back to top

Recently iv been reading the book "Keith Code, A twist of the wrist" Who is one of the blokes who runs the California Superbike school.
I found some really interestin stuff on riding techniques the most dramatic of which is the Countersteering technique which for anyone who doesnt know, the act of steering the opposite way to turn into a bend better.
The first time i tried it it confused the hell out of me, i turn the bars left and the bike went right....
Iv been using it more and more and now iv worked it into my riding style a bit my cornering is much more controlled than before!!!!
Does anyone else use it deliberately or is it a waste of energy??
My back and shoulders ache like mad after a ride these days!!!
 

 
andyk3
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 PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

i think that most experienced riders will use this method without even realising .. i know that i have used this method for many yrs Cool
 
dazyguk
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 PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Its the only way to ride fast, only so much can be done with body weight. Once you get used to it you will be slapping the bike onto its side quicker than you ever thought possible Cool
 
GAZBAG
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 PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

when i was told about this method i thought it was a load of old crap until i tried it on the road, now i use it all the time when riding fast Twisted Evil
 
bazrippa
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 PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Iv not been on the road long so forgive me if you all know about it but it has improved my riding so much over the summer i just had to give it a mention!
If anyone wants a copy of the book by Keith Code then giz a shout, iv got it on PDF for the pc!!
 
rick-uk
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 PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

PM sent re the book mate! Very Happy
 
dazyguk
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 PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bazrippa wrote:
Iv not been on the road long so forgive me if you all know about it but it has improved my riding so much over the summer i just had to give it a mention!
If anyone wants a copy of the book by Keith Code then giz a shout, iv got it on PDF for the pc!!


No need to apologise matey, even old dogs can learn new tricks Thum_2 In fact i'm slower now than when i first started riding Laughing
 
bazrippa
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 PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Sent the book guys!!
Enjoy!!!
 
dazyguk
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 PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Cheers Cool Thum_2 Thum_1
 
bazrippa
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 PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

dazyguk wrote:
bazrippa wrote:
Iv not been on the road long so forgive me if you all know about it but it has improved my riding so much over the summer i just had to give it a mention!
If anyone wants a copy of the book by Keith Code then giz a shout, iv got it on PDF for the pc!!


No need to apologise matey, even old dogs can learn new tricks Thum_2 In fact i'm slower now than when i first started riding Laughing

My old man has been riding for 42 years and when i told him about it he said "Awww yea iv always done that", but since i told him he has been getting stacks more lean angle in the turns!!
Hehe funny old bugger!!! LOL
 
dazzygsxr750
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Location: wrexham,north wales

 PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

im trying to counter steer but i just cant seem to get the bike as low as i want,my chicken strip are stuck at half an inch Laughing
 
dazyguk
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 PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

A track day will sort that out dazzy Twisted Evil
 
loopy
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 PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

you'll find that every rider who goes above 20-25mph counter steers, they just dont realise it.
 
bazrippa
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 PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

loopy wrote:
you'll find that every rider who goes above 20-25mph counter steers, they just dont realise it.

I agree 100% but as soon as you are concious of the effect that it has you can use it to improve your cornering!!
Next time you are in a left hander, just push your left handlebar forward and feel the bike drop!!!!
 
bazrippa
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 PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Keith codes No BS bike video
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3nRUeEkS644&mode=related&search=
 

 
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