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rev gsxr
stunt monkey
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Location: northampton
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 Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 6:28 pm Post subject: Justice has been done to leon |
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Following the second British Superbike Championship race at Oulton Park on Monday 5 May 2008, the Judicial Clerk of the Course has investigated the incident involving Tom Sykes (#66) and Leon Haslam (#91) at Hizzys.
Following interviews with both riders and after considering the report of the senior marshal at the scene and TV broadcast evidence, the Judicial Clerk of the Course has determined that Haslam (#91) has breached the MCRCB regulations as follows:
Article B1.7 - Careless riding in the course of a meeting
Accordingly the following penalty has been imposed: Exclusion from the race result.
The rights of appeal have been advised. (5 May 2008 - 17.50hrs)
At 18.10 an appeal was heard by Honda.
An appeal was heard by the MCRCB Chief Steward, Mr Needham, and after hearing evidence from the two riders, the senior marshal, and further scrutiny of broadcast and stills footage, the decision of the Judical Clerk of the Course was confirmed.
The appeal was rejected at 18.55.
The rider has further rights of appeal in accordance with the MCRCB Judical Code.
Les Needham, Chief Steward (5 May 2008 - 19.10) |
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andyk3
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| Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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ha  got what he deserved  |
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K31000
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Location: On the patio, putting the washing out.
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| Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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Good,I thought that Tom's attitude was spot on when the Ginger bloke interviewed them both after the race. Leon was whining about "racing incident" "Tom made a smistake" blah blah.
Tom just didn't comment but his actions and demeanour siad something very different, top marks to Tom. Leon is a whining 2hat, and he doesn't really have to ride like that. |
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drummingod
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Location: Corby, Northants, UK
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| Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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yeh im beginning to feel really sorry for Sykes as he deserves the wins but his luck just keep running out. Ive never really liked Haslams attitude, to me he acts the big man cuz his old man is Rocket Ron and becuz of this he thinks he can get away with anything.
Lets hope Sykes get the wins soon |
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Kirkeh
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Joined: 30 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Bah, he just made a mistake and out braked himself. I think it sets a dodgy presedent (sp?) by disqualifying him from the result. I've seen plenty of passes that have been just as hard but luckily havn't ended in tears. Christ, JT has been sticking it to all comers in MotoGP and nobody is whining about him :)
Racing incident and poor obs from TS  |
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r1srule
High Side Man
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Location: coventry
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| Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 4:11 am Post subject: |
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WHAT A REDICULOUS DECISION!!
ITS RACING FOR FCUK SAKE!!!!
Just cos sykes is riding a gixer doesn't mean he's imune from being overtaken, Haslam was trying to win the race thats not a crime and makes for good TV for us all. It didn't work out and sykes came off for the worse but thats racing for you....... sorry guys deal with it.
If riders are afraid to overtake incase there's an off then it'll be like watching a focused events trackday before long.
The Health and safety nazi's are slowly but surely ruining it for everyone and this is just another example of bull sh*t regulations.
I'm no fan of Haslam, cant stand him but this is just an omenous sign of red tape getting involved in the races and i dont like it one bit  |
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Scotty
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| Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 4:36 am Post subject: |
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Then why should Tom Sykes suffer because of Haslams mistake?(and it isnt the first time I seen him do that either).
If this sort of riding is tolerated, then everyone will think its ok to knock another rider off and claim "Racing incident".
There has to be rules. |
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r1srule
High Side Man
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| Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 4:45 am Post subject: |
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| Scotty wrote: | Then why should Tom Sykes suffer because of Haslams mistake?(and it isnt the first time I seen him do that either).
If this sort of riding is tolerated, then everyone will think its ok to knock another rider off and claim "Racing incident".
There has to be rules. |
couldn't disagree with that more.
Racing is racing, the more rules there are the more it takes out of the spirit of racing.
Like i said i'm no fan of haslam and i'm gutted for sykes he was lookin good for a podium but people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones and the race teams should be left alone to disciplin their guys. |
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Scotty
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Location: South Creake, Norfolk
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| Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 4:52 am Post subject: |
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| r1srule wrote: | | Scotty wrote: | Then why should Tom Sykes suffer because of Haslams mistake?(and it isnt the first time I seen him do that either).
If this sort of riding is tolerated, then everyone will think its ok to knock another rider off and claim "Racing incident".
There has to be rules. |
couldn't disagree with that more.
Racing is racing, the more rules there are the more it takes out of the spirit of racing.
Like i said i'm no fan of haslam and i'm gutted for sykes he was lookin good for a podium but people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones and the race teams should be left alone to disciplin their guys. |
I hope I never have to race against you then!  |
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andyk3
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| Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 5:55 am Post subject: |
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its a fine line between a racing incident and a dangerous manoeuvre
nothing to do with it being a GSX R for me , Leon has done this b4 to other riders and sometimes a slapped arse aint enough |
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rev gsxr
stunt monkey
Joined: 03 May 2007
Posts: 1136
Location: northampton
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| Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 6:27 am Post subject: |
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| Scotty wrote: | Then why should Tom Sykes suffer because of Haslams mistake?(and it isnt the first time I seen him do that either).
If this sort of riding is tolerated, then everyone will think its ok to knock another rider off and claim "Racing incident".
There has to be rules. |
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r1srule
High Side Man
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| Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 6:49 am Post subject: |
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| Scotty wrote: | | r1srule wrote: | | Scotty wrote: | Then why should Tom Sykes suffer because of Haslams mistake?(and it isnt the first time I seen him do that either).
If this sort of riding is tolerated, then everyone will think its ok to knock another rider off and claim "Racing incident".
There has to be rules. |
couldn't disagree with that more.
Racing is racing, the more rules there are the more it takes out of the spirit of racing.
Like i said i'm no fan of haslam and i'm gutted for sykes he was lookin good for a podium but people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones and the race teams should be left alone to disciplin their guys. |
I hope I never have to race against you then! |
i'd never attempt a move like that, i can't afford to fall off and i don't wanna hurt myself but if my job/career relied on it then maybe i'd see things differently.
i'm not defending haslam's move, it was daft and he was never gonna make the corner. wot i've got a problem with is the health and safety police stickin their nose's in.
off on a tangent here, i was at silvesrstone on sunday and they've put the abbey chicane in, the long left hander at abbey was one of the best corners in the UK but the anoracs have taken away the enjoyment for us all after some poxy risk assesment no doubt. |
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K31000
Site Admin
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Location: On the patio, putting the washing out.
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| Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:03 am Post subject: |
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| r1srule wrote: |
If riders are afraid to overtake incase there's an off then it'll be like watching a focused events trackday before long.
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But he didn't overtake him, he rode through him.
If the rules weren't there it would just degenerate into carnage. Thruxton was a racing incident, Oulton was a desperate lunge for a line that wasn't there.
The comment about JT isn't quite correct either, I believe there are quite a few of the other riders whining about him. |
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drummingod
BSB novice
Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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Location: Corby, Northants, UK
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| Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 10:35 am Post subject: |
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| K31000 wrote: | | r1srule wrote: |
If riders are afraid to overtake incase there's an off then it'll be like watching a focused events trackday before long.
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But he didn't overtake him, he rode through him.
If the rules weren't there it would just degenerate into carnage. Thruxton was a racing incident, Oulton was a desperate lunge for a line that wasn't there.
The comment about JT isn't quite correct either, I believe there are quite a few of the other riders whining about him. |
i agree, tom was already on the line and into the corner and leon basically went in reguardless and probably knew he was gonna knock tom off, a bad move |
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Kirkeh
moped
Joined: 30 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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I dont believe for one second that Haslam 'knew' he was going to knock Tom Sykes off, thats just crazy talk dood. He just misjudged the corner, racing is a fine line between being a hero and being a villian, this week Haslam is the villian but I'll bet 10 Hullpounds that we see at least a handful of suck passes throughout the season and fcuk all gets done about them.
When I mentioned the 'whining' regarding JT's passes, I meant from the public, not from the racers themselves. Vermuelen just whined because he got beat, I don't rate him tbh, I'd put money on JT kicking his ass for the rest of the season ;) |
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