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PAUL71
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 Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:54 pm Post subject: Ducati 1200 ruining superbikes !!!! |
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| Is it just me or does anyone else think the ducatis have to much of an advantage watching wsb yesterday Bayliss controlled the whole race knowing his tyres will outlast everyone else. |
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andyk3
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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yep , i know of quite a few lads who have already stopped watching
1000cc is 1000cc not 1200 , if they dont like it make a v4 |
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Fishy
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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they have a V4 and if they can sell enough they will destroy the field even more 
I think that at the moment it seems to be the way the twin preserves its tyres it certainly aint the fastest in a straight line.
There is also a weight penalty rule if it gets too far in front.
Having said that it seems to be a Bayliss rather than 1098 situation much like its Stoner rather than the Desmosedici after all even Melandri cant get it to go fast[/code] |
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andyk3
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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"There is also a weight penalty rule if it gets too far in front."
very true but they have been very crafty by not winning every race so this rule will be no good by the time they use it , when they do some of the higher speed tracks like monza you will see just how quick the duke is |
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L3on
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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| not seen any of it, not got sky, but reminds of the the norton rotary days. |
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ashman
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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I think you have to give Bayliss a fair bit of credit too. He can chuffin ride a bike  |
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andyk3
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| dam right he can mate , still dont see why they can have 200cc more and the 1000s still have to run with restricted air flow |
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r1srule
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| L3on wrote: | | not seen any of it, not got sky, but reminds of the the norton rotary days. |
how old are you leon? |
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andyk3
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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i dont remember watching those black bikes whoop everyone's arses  |
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L3on
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:29 am Post subject: |
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| andyk3 wrote: | | i dont remember watching those black bikes whoop everyone's arses |
nearly as old as Andy by the looks of it
was only in the eighties anyway |
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PAUL71
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Bayliss can ride a bike for sure but still is a lot down to fact can ride as hard as he wants and tyres will last.And personally i think stoners success is down to the bike last year he is a good rider but now the other bikes have caught up technically and pedrosa and lorenzo are flying he is struggling a bit.Ducati will probably want a 1200 in that next if they cant win they just change the rules !!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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r1srule
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| PAUL71 wrote: | | Bayliss can ride a bike for sure but still is a lot down to fact can ride as hard as he wants and tyres will last.And personally i think stoners success is down to the bike last year he is a good rider but now the other bikes have caught up technically and pedrosa and lorenzo are flying he is struggling a bit.Ducati will probably want a 1200 in that next if they cant win they just change the rules !!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
don't get me started on stoner!!!
spoilt arrogant little turd, you just know he's got no respect for anyone else in the paddock and when things aren't going his way he throws his teddy big time and blames everything but himself. He expects the bike and track to adapt to him rather than himself to adapt to the conditions.
so he's perfectly suited to ducati as thats exactly how they behave.
i hate dukes, not because of the bikes but because of the whole image that goes with them and the politics they bring into racing. |
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Fishy
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| r1srule wrote: | | PAUL71 wrote: | | Bayliss can ride a bike for sure but still is a lot down to fact can ride as hard as he wants and tyres will last.And personally i think stoners success is down to the bike last year he is a good rider but now the other bikes have caught up technically and pedrosa and lorenzo are flying he is struggling a bit.Ducati will probably want a 1200 in that next if they cant win they just change the rules !!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
don't get me started on stoner!!!
spoilt arrogant little turd, you just know he's got no respect for anyone else in the paddock and when things aren't going his way he throws his teddy big time and blames everything but himself. He expects the bike and track to adapt to him rather than himself to adapt to the conditions.
so he's perfectly suited to ducati as thats exactly how they behave.
i hate dukes, not because of the bikes but because of the whole image that goes with them and the politics they bring into racing. |
Gotta ask the question is Stoner is so Sh1t how come none of the other duke riders can get anywhere near the front on it? |
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r1srule
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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| i didn't say he was sh*t mate? |
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Fishy
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:12 am Post subject: |
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fair point.
Personally I think he is the only one who has got his head round the 'twist n go' stlye of the duke, I think some of the other riders have difficulties trusting the traction control as much as he does.
On the downside he is an Aussie and Doohan was not the nicest fella in the world when things were goin against him. Though there is an argument that in them days it was all rider skill (which I certainly agree with). When was the last time you saw an old fashioned highside in MotoGP |
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